diver, didn't even have his mask on as we saw, just standing there having everybody yell at him to get in. those four minutes, mar that, are critical. the fact, too, about the overcrowding we see in the video here, all of those people, you know, again, is that gross negligence on the part of the company? martha: take a look, we have the video that shows there were all these people standing up there. now, these events used to be sparsely attended, now they're hugely popular, and they're stacked up. if your kids were doing this in a pool, you'd be saying wait a minute, everybody, you know, wait until those people swim through, and the woman who jumps down in the red shirt is potentially the person that they think may have landed on him. we don't know. there she goes into the water right after him. >> and, martha, there wouldn't have been a possibility of that if there weren't so many people lined up to go, you know, to go at the same time. and i would argue if i were the plaintiff's lawyer here, the only reason they had such overcrowding, the only reason they were so sparsely attended with divers is money, martha.